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I want to shift a little bit.

You've got a show on Sirius XM.

You've been doing it for a while with Mike Shoshchevsky.

Give me a little bit.

What do you even learned working with Coach K?

Well, we did 18 years, and I'm thrilled that Duke's in the final four again this year.

I know, I don't know Shire well, but I remember meeting him when we did a media coaching segment down there. You know what?

The exactitude of how... I remember meeting him when we did a media coaching segment down there. You know what?

The exactitude of how he does things, his preparation, his constant search for knowledge,

his ability to communicate with players and people, He's got a sense of humor. He's one of the great ball breakers of all time. He was a West Point guy, but he

said he cusses like a sailor. He's a real dude. And I find him, I've been around him for a lot,

going back to when I was a young reporter, a reporter at the Daily News, he was at West Point.

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