Seagull and Holmes.

We took through a hot grease now, man. Afternoons on the score. It's a great challenge, and when we were doing our interviews, that's a big part of Ben. Ben wanted to be here, and he wanted to compete in this division because he knows how tough it is. And that stood out to me, and he carries that out in his actions and things that he says and does around the facility and the guys feel that.

I don't see a juggernaut in the other three teams.

And if the Bears take another step, remember, they weren't successful record-wise last year,

but they were competitive.

You know, now I think Ben takes that talent and elevates it because of his attention

to detail.

And I like to win some of these close games.

And Caleb, take the next step.

Our buddy, Sean King, you know, from Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Yeah, I was going to say.

I'm all your name.

He jumps up whenever we're in Vegas over at Circa.

He will stop by and come and hang out on the show

with us.

He's great.

And he's been one of the more interesting guys when it comes to thoughts on Caleb overall.

I really love how detailed his opinion is on that.

It's a Spiego and Home Show.

Carmen Vitale is here sitting in for Speaks today, which is great. Part of the

reason that I wanted you to come and host because who doesn't like when Loho and Carmen talk

ball? Obviously. We found this out on football night in Chicago. Yes. People enjoy that.

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