Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration on the process on the general ups and downs of making a life in

music. So whether you're a grizzled veteran selling VIP packages to your gig at

a winery or else a scrappy upstart, running into fans on the smoking balcony of

the rock show, this is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks

most, an iron-clad excuse to put off, actually writing.

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