Pushkin.

Over the past 15 years, Nashville's super producer, Dave Cobb, has managed to inject

some much-needed soul into country music. Dave Cobb has earned six Grammys for stand-out

work with artists like Jason Isbel, Brandy Carlyle, and Chris Stapleton, whose song Tennessee

Whiskey were listening to now. And as you'll hear today, Dave polls inspiration from sources

not normally associated with country music. Dave worshipped Ozzy Osborne as a kid, despite

growing up in a devout Pentecostal family. And in the early 90s, he cut his teeth as a

session guitarist in Atlanta, working with hip-hop and R&B producers, Jermaine DePri and Dallas

Austin. Rick Rubin and Dave Cobb connected over Zoom recently to talk about Dave's

unconventional path to becoming a country music producer. They also talk about the power

of being an outsider and the value of goofing around in the studio. This is Broken Record,

Liner Notes for the Digital Age. I'm Justin Richmond. Here's Rick Rubin and Dave Cobb.

So how's everything been going? How you feeling? I'm good. I just survived any apocalypse,

you know? It's a weird time. I'm sure it's weird for you guys as well. It sometimes

feel like we have a job, we go in the studio, we don't see the outside world that feels

kind of normal until you actually leave. And I realize we're on the other side of something.

Have you been able to work straight through?

You know, I took, there was a lockdown here, so I didn't work during that time. But I

went back shortly afterwards. And it's always in the back of your mind, right? Everything

about it. But I think I'm always sensitive to, I think maybe it's our job to read the

room and read everything around you. And you can just see people come in a little bit

disoriented. We have to kind of shake it off. Tequila usually helps with that though.

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