Welcome to the doctor's pharmacy. I'm Dr. Mark Heimann and that's pharmacy F-A-R-M-A-C-Y.

A place for conversations that matter. And today's guest is someone who's going to tell you things that really matter.

Dave Asprey is a close friend who's my inspiration and one of the smartest guys I've ever met.

He's the founder and CEO of Bulloproof Coffee and Bulloproof360.

He is a two-time New York Times best-selling author and I definitely hoached his books for learning things from my book.

And he hosts this amazing podcast Bulloproof Radio. He's been featured on the Today Show CNN New York Times. Dr. Oz, he's worked with World Rinawn Doctors.

Not me obviously, no, he has. He's actually helped me when I was really sick last year. I called Dave because I needed to figure out how to get better.

And he gave me some extraordinary great suggestions. And you know, most doctors don't go to lay people to learn stuff, but I go to Dave.

He works with incredible scientists to uncover the latest most innovative methods for enhancing our physical and mental performance by taking control of our own biology.

It's called biohacking. So stay tuned that conversation is coming up next on the doctor's pharmacy.

So welcome, Dave, to the doctor's pharmacy. Mark, I'm so happy you started a show. You have such a good take on medicine. And you'll be able to share this with people. It's awesome. And I'm honored to be here.

Fantastic. So one of the things that's challenging for people in the health space, and there's a whole sort of problem.

And I would say now called orthorexia, which is this idea that people are so obsessed with restricting their diets to be healthy.

And it leads to a sort of a restrictive life. And for me, what's important is not to be restrictive, but to learn how to be resilient.

And you've had to, in your own life, be restrictive in order to get resilient, but you're now exploring and sort of hacking the concept of resiliency.

How do you become robust and resilient and have more of what we call metabolic degrees of freedom? Can you tell us about that?

Orthorexia is a fascinating condition. And the truth of the matter is that if you eat junk food all the time, it is going to kill you.

And your body knows that. And you kind of get a little stressed, but you don't know what's going on. And then if you suddenly start eating in a way that makes you feel much better, and then you go back to the other way, it's like a punch in the face.

Oh, my God, I don't want to do that again. And it's not uncommon to develop almost like a little bit of a panic response. Like, oh, my God, if I eat a french fry, I'm going to die.

And that's where orthorexia and things like that come from. And the truth of the matter is that if you eat a french fry once, you're not going to die.

You might not feel as good you might get a pimple. But if you do it all the time, it's really going to screw up your ability to show up in the world the way you want to.

And it's that sense of calmness and acceptance and metabolic resilience that you want to build into what you do so that you say I'm going to choose not to eat the french fry, but I'm not going to die if I do.

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