Welcome to John Gordon's Positive University podcast.

I'm Daniel Decker, the co-host of the show, and today John is joined by Dave Alpern,

president of Joe Gibbs Racing, the winning-est team in NASCAR history.

Now one amazing thing about Dave, as you'll hear during the interview, is that he started

with Joe Gibbs Racing as an unpaid intern in 1993, and he's worked his way all the way up

to the top where he is now.

It is a phenomenal story, and Dave shares a ton of lessons that he's learned himself

along the way, and directly from Joe Gibbs.

Let us know your greatest takeaways, post on social, and be sure to tag John.

Our featured resource today is John's brand new book with Coach PJ Fleck.

It's called Rowe the Boat.

It's a never-give-up approach to lead with enthusiasm and optimism, and improve your team

and culture.

You can get your copy now anywhere books are sold, but jump over to RoweTheBoatBook.com

where you can get additional resources for free.

That's RoweTheBoatBook.com.

Be sure to listen to last week's episode, or our most recent episode before this, with

John and PJ Fleck as they share several of the principles from the book.

It is an amazing discussion.

You will definitely find a lot of takeaways on that one too.

All right, let's jump in and join John and Dave.

Hey, this is John Gordon with Positive You, and today my guest is Dave Alpern.

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