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The Documentary Podcast

Daughters of thunder

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.32.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

In small towns and rural areas across the south of the United States traditional family churches have long been key guardians of black culture, memory and community spirit. Until very recently women called to preach in these communities faced opposition ranging from grudging acceptance at best to total ostracisation. But now an increasing number of women are winning acceptance as preachers, pastors and community leaders in Baptist and United Methodist Churches, becoming the vital glue which binds changing, rural black communities together.

Alvin Hall asks some of these women about the lengths they have gone to to follow their calling, driving hundreds of miles to carry the word of God in touring ministries reminiscent of the male Circuit Riders of Alvin’s childhood. In Paducah, Kentucky he meets Baptist pastors Donna G Hawkins, LaRita Horton Addison and James Lee Hudson to explore their individual journeys towards acceptance. Alvin also meets Associate Pastor, Reverend Vanessa Skillion who has travelled 216 miles to join Donna in preaching at Macedonia Missionary Baptist Church. Meanwhile in Nashville, Tennessee Alvin hears the perspectives of two United Methodist Ministers, Reverend Dr Jacqui King and Reverend Dr Paula Smith.

In life stories, preaching, prayers and music we encounter communities uplifted and worship subtly altered by the spirits of women.

Music performed by Donna G. Hawkins and the congregation of Macedonia Missionary Baptist Church, Paducah, KY.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:09.5

We give reverence, honor and praise to God the Father, to God the Son, and to God the Holy Spirit.

0:16.2

To the officers and members of the Macedonia Missionary Baptist Church, brothers and sisters. Good morning.

0:24.6

This music, these voices, are familiar to me from many Sundays of my childhood. But there's a

0:32.7

difference in a place where I always heard men speaking,

0:38.4

these are the voices of women.

0:41.3

I had a resolution within myself

0:43.8

that the word of God had to go forward,

0:47.5

and it didn't matter the platform.

0:50.7

Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service.

0:55.3

He who has an ear let him hear.

0:58.4

I will preach on the railroad tracks if that's where God sends me.

1:03.8

I'm Alvin Hall, and this is Daughters of Thunder.

1:08.3

So it did not matter to me whether they opened their

1:11.9

pulpit because the pulpit of the righteous belong to God and the

1:18.0

pulpit was in the heart. In this week's episode of Heart and Soul, I'm going to

1:24.3

introduce you to a world of small towns, historic churches, and the women who are

1:31.0

slowly transforming a religious tradition, a tradition that is at the heart of black culture in the

1:38.6

American South.

1:40.5

It's good to be in the House of the Lord one more time, isn't it?

1:44.0

It's good to be in the house of the Lord one more time, isn't it? It's good to be in the house of the Lord one more time.

1:49.4

Donna Hawkins is pastor of the Macedonia Missionary Baptist Church in Paducah, Kentucky.

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