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DAUGHTERS OF THE CULT—An Interview with Anna and Celia LeBaron, daughters of murderous cult leader Ervil LeBaron

Hidden True Crime

Hidden True Crime

Documentary, News, True Crime, News Commentary, Society & Culture

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2024

⏱️ 130 minutes

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Summary

Anna and Celia LeBaron are subjects of the new Hulu Documentary by ABC News Studios “Daughters of the Cult” and Anna is author of the book: “The Polygamist's Daughter” Ervil LeBaron, their father, was charged with ordering the murders of many of his opponents, including family members. Ervil used the religious doctrine of "Blood Atonement" to justify the murders. Anna and Celia escaped the cult and tell their harrowing family story in this groundbreaking documentary. HIDDEN: A TRUE CRIME PODCAST is: CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGY REINVENTED. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors in order to understand the world and ourselves. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and has consulted on numerous high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states. In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California. Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day. Dr. Matthias has been an adjunct assistant professor in the University of Nevada Las Vegas clinical psychology doctoral program since 2007. He supervises UNLV doctoral students on forensic assessments, clinical case formulation, and various therapeutic approaches to clinical work. LAUREN MATTHIAS has worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in East Idaho, Boise, Idaho and Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah. In 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award. She left the reporting world to produce the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist. Your support helps us produce these podcasts/videos. We have some big plans to explore the true crime terrain in a way that no one else has attempted. HIDDEN: A TRUE CRIME PODCAST is: CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGY REINVENTED. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors in order to understand the world and ourselves. WEBSITE: https://hiddentruecrime.com/ SUPPORT: https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime https://paypal.me/hiddentruecrime Our Sponsors:* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.armoire.style* Check out Effecty and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.effecty.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://happymammoth.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hidden, a true crime podcast. A forensic psychologist and a journalist explore the hidden

0:09.6

motives behind unthinkable crimes while examining our deepest fears along the way. Hello, Hidden Gems. Are we live? Hello, everyone. We are with two very special guests today tonight.

0:35.7

Thank you everyone for joining us tonight.

0:38.0

Sisters with us, Celia and Anna LeBaron, they have a story. In fact, some of you might recognize Anna because she has shared her story with hidden true crime before. Not only has she shared it before, she didn't realize this, I told her,

0:56.4

but she was actually our very first YouTube live interview ever. And I think, Anna, have we come a long way now from... Oh my gosh. Yes, that first time was a little bit of a struggle. And look look here we are just smooth as butter. Right right yes I think we've started like the first 20 minutes was technical difficulties and here we are full circle. So thank you

1:26.1

Anna for being our first guest and three years later coming back and

1:30.4

bringing your wonderful sister Celia with us whose story is is just as incredible.

1:37.2

These two women you might recognize them if you have watched a new documentary on Hulu it's called

1:44.6

Daughters of the Cult it's an ABC production is that right ABC news

1:49.4

studio production on Hulu called Daughters of the Cult because these two women were raised in a

1:58.0

cult. Not just any cult but delayed out a murderous cult. not just say what it is

2:03.0

blade out a murderous cult

2:05.6

YouTube don't demonetize me for that but let's just say what it is

2:10.2

their father Your father ended up Erville LeBaron. Many call him the Mormon. He died in prison but you know one thing we want to share it for those that want you know

2:28.0

Anna why don't you Celia why don't you hold up Anna's book. Anna has written incredible book detailing her account

2:34.7

called the polygamous daughter.

2:37.3

Is that the name of it?

2:39.2

Yeah. The polygamous daughter.

2:41.6

The polygamous daughter. The polygamous daughter.

2:42.3

I want to get the name right. It's an incredible account.

2:45.9

And then these two incredible women joined together to share their harrowing, brave, incredible story on this Hulu documentary that we recommend.

2:55.6

Everyone Watching Daughters of the Cold.

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