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Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue

Date Like a Scientist from The Happiness Lab

Double Date with Marlo Thomas & Phil Donahue

Pushkin Industries

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Do you go on endless dates hoping to find the perfect partner only to be endlessly disappointed? Or have you stopped meeting people because you've decided that you're undateable? Maybe you need to start dating like a scientist. 

Behavioural scientist Logan Ury has studied the common mistakes we make when looking for love - and thinks science can shows us a better way.  

Logan is the director of relationship science at the dating app Hinge. She’s also the dating coach for the new Netflix showThe Later Daters and author of How to Not Die Alone.

Check out Logan's website at loganury.com

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:14.7

Hey, Dr. Laurie Santos here.

0:18.3

Here at the Happiness Lab, we spend a lot of time talking about the happiness benefits of being a fan.

0:23.6

And it just so happens that another Pushkin podcast has gone deep into this topic.

0:28.8

It's a show called Against the Rules, hosted by best-selling author Michael Lewis.

0:34.2

Michael Lewis is the brains behind books like Moneyball, The Big Short, and Liars Poker.

0:39.3

This season of Against the Rules is all about sports fandom, but also sports gambling, which

0:44.3

was legalized in the U.S. just a few years ago.

0:47.3

From a happiness perspective, this is a fascinating topic.

0:50.3

Michael talks with gambling addicts, but also pro basketball stars, Vegas bookies, and even

0:55.7

experts in casino design. I also get to make an appearance. I really enjoyed our conversation.

1:02.4

So if you're a little bit curious, I urge you to check out against the rules and subscribe

1:06.2

wherever you get your podcasts.

1:27.5

Welcome to February. It's a month of cold weather but warm hearts, thanks to Valentine's Day.

1:29.4

Love is in the air this time of year.

1:33.8

So we're devoting two shows of our new how-to season to the science of relationships,

1:36.1

and we're kicking things off with dating.

1:38.9

Many of us feel like we're getting dating all wrong.

1:43.6

We chase the wrong people entirely, or we chase the right people in the wrong way.

1:47.0

But what if we used science to find the ideal partner?

1:50.7

That's what we'll be exploring today, how to date like a scientist.

1:54.6

And we have the perfect expert to help us don those relationship lab codes.

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