Data Brokers, Public Records, and Violence with Justin Sherman
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🗓️ 6 November 2023
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
In the debate about data privacy and harms, one issue has not received adequate attention by the press or in policy conversations relative to the severity and volume of harm: the link between publicly available information and stalking and gendered violence.
To discuss how “people search” data brokers use public information and contribute to stalking and abuse, Lawfare’s Fellow in Technology Policy and Law, Eugenia Lostri, sat down with Justin Sherman who recently wrote a Lawfare article on the topic. Justin is the Founder and CEO of Global Cyber Strategies and a Senior Fellow at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy. They talked about the publicly available information carve-outs, the systemic nature of the problem, and how policymakers should step in.
Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of gendered violence and stalking. Listener discretion is advised.
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| 1:21.3 | I'm going to start a new chapter of my life and pretty much as soon as you move these |
| 1:26.7 | data brokers are going to immediately repopulate their databases with your updated address. |
| 1:33.2 | And next thing you know, that person that was being |
| 1:38.2 | abusive or violent towards you can immediately go online and find that updated information and then hunt you down. |
| 1:46.5 | I am O'Henny Anderson, LawFars Fellow in Technology Policy and Law, and this is the Law for Podcast November 6th |
| 1:55.0 | 2023. In the debate about data privacy and harms one issue has not received |
| 2:00.8 | adequate attention by the press or in policy conversations relative to the severity and volume of harm. |
| 2:07.0 | That is the link between publicly available information and stalking and gendered violence. |
| 2:14.2 | To discuss how people search data brokers use public information and contribute to stalking |
| 2:19.0 | and abuse, I sat down with Justin Sherman, who recently wrote a lawfare article on the topic. |
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