Data Brokers and the Sale of Data on U.S. Military Personnel
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🗓️ 16 November 2023
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
On November 6, researchers at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy issued a report on “Data Brokers and the Sale of Data on U.S. Military Personnel” that illuminates the national security risks arising from the sale of these data. Lawfare Senior Editor Stephanie Pell sat down with the three of the report’s authors: Justin Sherman, a Senior Fellow at the Sanford School of Public Policy who leads its data brokerage research project; Hayley Barton, a Master of Public Policy and Master of Business Administration student at Duke University and a former research assistant on Duke’s data brokerage research project; and Brady Allen Kruse, a Master of Public Policy student at Duke University and a research assistant on Duke’s data brokerage research project.
They talked about the kinds of data that data brokers collect and sell about U.S. military personnel, the national security risks created by these practices, and the gaps in the law that enable this activity. They also discussed policy recommendations for the U.S. federal government to address the risks associated with data brokerage and the sale of data on former and active-duty U.S. military personnel.
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| 0:50.4 | T's and C's apply. Check the Uber app. When we did run into a barrier with one broker that we could not get around by being broad or just by declining a phone call, |
| 1:07.0 | there was almost always another broker who had similar data, similar data fields. |
| 1:12.9 | So those cracks in the ecosystem |
| 1:15.4 | were pretty easy to find and still obtain this data. |
| 1:20.2 | I'm Stephanie Pell, senior editor at Law Fair, and this is the Law Fair podcast, November 16, |
| 1:26.4 | 2023. |
| 1:28.3 | On November 6th, researchers at Duke University's Sanford School of Public Policy issued a report on data |
| 1:35.4 | brokers and the sale of data on US military personnel that illuminates the |
| 1:40.8 | national security risks arising from the sale of these data. |
| 1:45.8 | I sat down with three of the report's authors, Justin Sherman, a senior fellow at the |
| 1:51.6 | Sanford School of Public Policy who leads its data brokerage research project. |
| 1:57.0 | Haley Barton, a master of public policy and master of business Administration Student at Duke University |
| 2:04.0 | and former research assistant on Duke's Data Brokerage Research Project |
| 2:08.5 | and Brady Alan Cruz, a Master of Public Policy Student at Duke University and research assistant |
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