They became an organization that instead of 80% operations, 20% intelligence, became 80% intelligence, 20% operations.

So all of that information had to be managed.

The planning that some of the artificial intelligence machine learning

have allowed us to speed up in real time where our operators at the edge can actually get the data and pull it into their systems.

It's going to be game-changing in the future.

Hey, welcome back to the Modern War Institute podcast. I'm John Amble, editorial director at MWI,

and in this episode, I'm joined by two very special guests. Dr. Richard Schultz is a professor

and the director of the International Security Studies program at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy.

And General Richard Clark is the commander of U.S. Special Operations Command.

The discussion we have focuses on the question of how special operations forces are integrating high-tech tools like artificial intelligence and machine learning to optimize their operations.

They trace the history of U.S. Special Operations Forces efforts in Iraq to adapt to the counterterrorism fight there. They also explained how these forces made use of data to enable a remarkably rapid operational tempo,

and they describe how a program called Project Maven took shape to harness new technological

capabilities.

Dr. Schultz has researched and written about Special Operations Forces and technology extensively,

and General Clark has spent much of his 36-year military career in Special Operations units.

Together, their perspectives offer some really valuable insights into a fascinating and important topic.

Before we get to the conversation, one quick note. As always, what you hear in this episode

are the views of the participants and don't represent those of West Point, the Army, or any other

agency of the U.S. government. All right, here's my conversation with Dr. Schultz and General

Clark.

Dr. Schultz, General Clark, thank you both so much for joining me on this episode of the MWI podcast.

Thanks, John.

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