Okay, we're recording. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. I have a very special guest, a returning guest. This will be our fourth discussion of his books. He's written over 50 books, so he has a very long resume or CV. His name is Dr. Jerry Bergman. And today we're going to talk about one of his

books titled Darwinian Eugenics and the Holocaust, American Industrial Involvement.

And it's kind of a follow on to an earlier discussion we had on August 21st, 2021 about another book

titled Hitler and the Nazi Darwinian worldview, how the Nazi eugenic crusade for a superior race caused the greatest holocaust in world history.

So you can go back and take a look at that.

And we've also done two other discussions.

We talked last week about Eisenhower, his book on Eisenhower and his faith, Christian faith,

and also the dark side of Darwin,

a critical analysis of an icon of science, which is very critical of Darwin, I think, very appropriately.

But again, we're going to talk about this book today titled Darwinian Eugenics and the Holocaust,

American Industrial Involvement.

Dr. Jerry Bergman, are you there?

It's great to be here.

Awesome. Well, thanks for agreeing to the interview and thanks for coming back on the show.

For people who may not have heard the earlier three discussions we had,

maybe you could talk a little bit about the arc of your research and what led you to write this book, Darwinian, Eugenics, and the Holocaust.

Well, I was concerned about the, as many people are today, even today, about the causes of

Darwinian revolution as well as the effects of the Darwinian revolution.

And one effect which has been written a fair amount about is, of course, the Nazi movement.

And in fact, I have a friend of mine that is coming out with a new book which documents indeed the importance of Darwinism in the development of Nazism.

And I suppose my background being German,

my relatives in German,

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