Darwin's The Descent of Man (1871)
Arts & Ideas
BBC
4.2 • 599 Ratings
🗓️ 10 February 2021
⏱️ 45 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Matthew Sweet is joined by Xine Yao, Joe Cain, and Ruth Mace, who've been re-reading Charles Darwin's 1871 book The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex. The book offered a radical reinterpretation of what it means to be human by situating us completely within the natural world as a product of natural selection. But it is also a book of its times, as reflected in the language Darwin uses to talk about race and gender. University College, London where our speakers are based - holds the papers of Francis Galton, the Victorian polymath and eugenicist who was Darwin's half cousin and the conversation considers both the positive and the negative ways of interpreting Darwin's book.
You will hear a discussion about some of the racial language used in the 19th and 20th centuries.
Dr Xine Yao is a BBC/AHRC New Generation Thinker whose main research at University College London focuses on nineteenth century American literature and histories of science and law at Professor Joe Cain is UCL Professor of History and Philosophy of Biology. Ruth Mace is Professor of Evolutionary Anthropology
On the Free Thinking website you can find a playlist exploring works which are Landmarks of Culture - these include discussions about Karl Marx, George Orwell, Machiavelli, Rachel Carson, Lorraine Hansberry https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01jwn44 And there are discussions about animals including Should We Keep Pets? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09hzj3y Does My Pet Love Me? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0004dr9
Producer: Luke Mulhall
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the home of the oxymoron. Evil genius. He asked the newspaper to print his obituary early so he'd enjoy it. That's like hiding at your own funeral. Yeah, a big, great gig. I'm Russell Kane. Join me to weigh in on whether the biggest players in history are more evil or genius. Becoming that rich, I'd say that is some level of genius. It also helps that it's a long time ago, right? |
| 0:23.3 | It's like the podcast version of telling your kids the ice cream van plays music |
| 0:27.0 | when it's out of ice cream. |
| 0:28.8 | Listen to evil genius on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:33.3 | BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:38.3 | 150 years ago, Charles Darwin wrote a book that changed the world. |
| 0:42.8 | No, not that one. This is The Descent of Man I'm talking about. |
| 0:47.2 | And on this Arts and Ideas podcast, you can find out how. |
| 0:50.4 | So join me, Matthew Sweet, and guests after this message. |
| 0:55.5 | With the BBC Sounds app, you can find some of your favourite shows with ease. For example, |
| 1:01.7 | you can tap the search button at the bottom right and type in Classical Fix. This will take you |
| 1:06.9 | straight to the podcast where we aim to open up the incredible world of classical music to everyone. |
| 1:13.0 | Featuring some famous faces, including the comedian James Acaster. |
| 1:16.8 | Listen to it, it feels like all the grimes coming off you. |
| 1:20.0 | The musician, Nadine Shah. |
| 1:21.6 | Right now I'm on some adventure. |
| 1:23.9 | And many more. |
| 1:25.4 | Download the BBC Sounds app to start listening to Classical Fix and many other podcasts. |
| 1:32.3 | He'd done finches, he'd done tortoises, niguanas and the giant prehistoric sloth. They were all there |
| 1:39.1 | in the origin of species. But Charles Darwin didn't have too much to say about humans and their evolution. |
| 1:46.5 | In February 1871, though, he went there in a book called The Descent of Man. And he went there |
| 1:52.8 | partly because the rest of the culture had already gone there, arguing about apes, arguing about race, |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from BBC, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of BBC and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

