Welcome to the podcast Think Bivocally, Conversations on Faith and Culture.

I'm your host, Sean McDow, Professor of Apology Ephology Biola University.

I'm your co-host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics, also at

Talbot School of Theology, Biola University.

We're here with a guest today that I've been looking forward to having on for a long time.

Dr. Michael B.

He is a biochemist, an intelligent design advocate, and the author of Darwin's black box and the edge of

evolution. He teaches biochemistry at Lehigh University and also has a new book that

just came out called Darwin Devolves,

the new science about DNA that challenges evolution.

Mike, thanks for joining us.

Oh, it's terrific to be with you. Let me start by just asking you to share your story of becoming a skeptic of Darwinism.

Yeah, sure.

You know, back in the day I used to believe Darwin the theory was correct I'm a I'm a Roman

Catholic and I went to parochial schools and we were taught kind of a theistic evolutionary idea that, you know, God made, God created the universe and its laws and if he wanted to make life by natural processes well who were we to

Tell him he couldn't and that's not at all fine to me

But after a while when I was an associate professor at

Lehi in the early in the mid-80s I read a book called Evolution A Theory in Crisis by a guy named Michael Denton

who's a medical doctor and geneticist in Australia at the time and in it he pointed out a whole number of problems for Darwin's theory that I had never heard about,

even though I was at that time a faculty member, biochemist, and I should

have heard about this.

And thinking back, I found that nobody in my science classes looked critically at Darwin's theory.

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