Y'all, we're living in stressful times.

I'm sure that regardless of your demographics and lived experience,

you're probably in various levels of panic on the day to day and that can make

anyone feel hopeless. I'm here to tell you that you're not alone and it's not

hopeless. To help me in this venture I've enlisted the help of

Darren Bell. We discuss some key moments about what it's like to grow up as a

marginalized person, the confusing messaging that we can get, the strife, the struggle,

and more importantly, that no matter what, we should never give up.

Welcome back to savvy psychologist. I'm your host Dr.

Monica Johnson. Every week on this show I'll help you face life challenges

with evidence-based approaches, a sympathetic ear, and zero judgment.

Everyone, we are joined by Pulitzer Prize-winning editorial cartoonist Darren Bell,

who is the author of Canderville and also the talk.

So thank you so much for coming and speaking with me today.

It's my pleasure.

Thanks for having me. Yeah and so I always like to start these

talks off with particularly since what we're focusing on is a memoir. If I were to describe the talk to someone else, what is it that you would

want me to say about it? What are the points that you would like for me to highlight in my

description? Hmm.

You know, I never like describing my own work.

I like just putting the work out there and letting other people describe it.

It was created in the wake of the murders of George Floyd and Brianna Taylor.

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