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Gonna go to the Bet-QL guest hotline here and talk to Darren Ravel. You might remember

him from the SPN, longtime sports business journalist and now he's the founder of collect media

Welcome Darren. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. I was just on your website

CLLCT.com collect and some really interesting stuff there.

Tell us how you got into this.

Well I've been collecting for 25 years and got real serious maybe 10 years ago.

You know, maybe started when I bought You Hefner's Viagra pill bottle.

And, you know, how much did you get that for 8,000.

Oh my God.

The thing is no the thing no I don't want to go on its hands here but like the

auction hat Crystal

Hethner is selling all this like furniture and like other things and it was at the

back of the book and it said estimate $1,000 and I'm like $1, dollars it's the greatest conversation piece of all time right

one thousand dollars you know so I started I thought there were a lot of things that were kind of not right with you know some of these auctions and I kind of you know picked around and you know made some good money doing it and also have a cool collection you know to the point that I can't

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