Well, hello everyone, and welcome to talk nerdy. Today is Monday, April 30th, and I'm

your host, Kara Santa Maria. And this week we have a fascinating conversation for you, but before we dive into it, I want to thank

those of you who made TalkNurdy possible.

Remember TalkNurdy is and will always be 100% free to download. This is my commitment to you.

And the way that I am able to support the show because it does take quite a bit of time

and at this point now I have extra help in the form of editing and some

administrative support.

So the way that I can afford to do that and focus on my schoolwork and you know all my other

jobs that I do is mostly from listener support

from people like you. Those of you who can afford to support the show make it

so that those who can't don't have to and that they're able to listen to it a week

after week for free. So if you do want to support the show there's a few ways to do it

you can go to patreon.com slash talk nerdy that's kind of the number one choice it's a centralized

hub everything is in one place and you'll see all of the options right there

where you can pledge your support you can also visit my website, it's Kara Santa Maria.com,

where you can see other options like shopping in the TalkNurdy Store.

Now I know it's limited.

I do have some last minute stock of a handful of things. I'm trying to sell those out because I will

soon be opening a new talk nerdy store. If you guys have any insights, if you have anything

you've been wanting to see offered, this new store is going to have a lot more

product offerings because it's going to be a print-on-demand model.

And I'm busy designing and getting everything ready for you.

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