I want to pause for a moment and acknowledge a brand that's doing something that you don't see very often anymore.

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I don't think anyone saw a world where we'd be watching videos on YouTube or other places

of, you know, somebody getting the business end of a drone

for less than $5,000 taking out an entire tank or something like that. That's insane.

Welcome back to Change Agents, an Iron Cloudad original, presented by Firecracker Forum.

I'm joined today by retired Chief Warn Officer 4 and founder of the App Spartan Forge, Bill Thompson.

Bill is a former Cyber Network Operations Advisor and Program Evaluator at DARPA.

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