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It's time to power up your auto marketing. marketing. Hello everyone. Welcome to Shift, a podcast about mobility. My name is Pete Bigelow. I'm a reporter of the Automotive News and your host. Today we have two terrific guests lined up. We will be talking to Red Whitaker, the roboticist and professor from Carnegie Mellon, who is nothing short of a legend in the automated vehicle industry.

It was his vehicle, the boss, that won the 2007 Darper Urban Challenge.

Following Red, we'll be talking with Swami Kotagiri, chief technology officer at Magnet

International, a supplier that really has transformed itself from a traditional supplier of

components to a you know a major player in the mobility industry.

So they're ahead, but first here today we have some

breaking news on the shift podcast. Joining me in the studio is our new shift editor Leslie Allen. Welcome Leslie.

Thank you so much Pete. It's good to be here. This is the probably the most

exciting part of the shift job is working with you here on the podcast.

So I'm very excited about that.

As am I, it's nice to hear that.

And I'm very glad that you're starting today.

So welcome.

Thank you.

I want to ask you, I think this is, you know,

the timing here couldn't be better to have read on later in the

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