Take a Man podcast. Logan Paulson is there. Craig Hoffman here. As we discuss phase three of OTAs,

the second open practice we saw yesterday. And what was said around it, Logan, and a guy who wound

up kind of being the talk of the town yesterday was Duran Payne with high compliments coming

from Dan Quinn and Joe Whit Jr. We can play those for everybody here in a second. But it's,

Payne's a guy that is in a very interesting situation, very similar to John Allen last year,

contractually, where they can basically move on from him for some significant cap savings

at the end of the

year. Obviously, if he were to play really well, then he's looking for an extension at the end of the

year. They have brought in Javon Kinlaw, who plays a similar position, although they go about it

differently. Last year, of course, they drafted Johnny Newton, who's a factor in not only pain,

but was kind of drafted as the

replacement for John Allen. So very interesting, you know, kind of let's see what Duran

Payne does this offseason, offseason for Duran Payne. And so far, Dan Quinn has been quite impressed.

You know, it's funny that you brought him up, but I walked past him today. You've had a remarkable off-season.

And I felt that way through the drill work, through the skill.

And everyone, you just see something that jumps out differently, that's onto a new space.

And I felt that from him coming into this off-season.

And I've certainly been impressed by what I've seen so far.

In fact, like literally today that I said, man, I've really been impressed by the work that you've put in

this off season. And I see it, you know, happening out on the field. Yeah. And it's so funny because

I don't really listen to the pressers like when they happen because like, you know, Joe was

shooters before, Dan's after. So I listened to most most of them today like kind of when I'm going to run around doing errands and it was funny I think I was standing next to you on the hill and just kind of serendipity deron pain like he did this thing where it was like keeper or boot so he's running to the run action which is to the defensive right and then he kind of does this big, long pursuit angle and, you know,

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