DARK SIDE OF THE MATTS: A spectacular row erupts over NASA’s moonshot
The Two Matts
The New World
4.2 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 2 April 2026
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
The Matts fall out spectacularly and unexpectedly over NASA’s moon shot, Artemis 2. How is this even possible, you ask? They’re not even sure… but the topic quickly descends into a brutal space war of words. In part two, common ground is regained as they analyse the latest Trump position on Iran and ask whether this war is going to push the UK back into the arms of the EU faster than anyone could have hoped.
Produced by Matt Withers
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| 0:00.0 | No human being will actually pilot something down to the moon surface. |
| 0:07.0 | It will all be done by a machine. |
| 0:10.0 | If Jesus Christ came back tomorrow in Leicester Square, people would go, |
| 0:16.0 | yeah, you know, I mean it really has got to the point now where it's very hard to know what would excite people. |
| 0:25.6 | This is what I think is particularly scary is that there is no inhibition now with this guy if there ever was. |
| 0:31.6 | He seems utterly uninhibited. |
| 0:38.6 | Hello and happy Thursday. |
| 0:40.7 | Happy Thursday, one and all. |
| 0:42.1 | Hope you're all having a great week. |
| 0:44.0 | Astonishing scenes. |
| 0:44.9 | Did you stay up for it, Matt? |
| 0:46.5 | I didn't stay up for it, but I've been this morning, I've been following the live feed with fascination. |
| 0:52.8 | Of course, it's pretty quiet a lot of the time from Artemis, |
| 0:56.7 | but it just is amazing and watching the scenes from Kennedy in Florida |
| 1:05.3 | and then scenes also from Mission Control in Houston. |
| 1:08.1 | It's both sort of ultra-modern, |
| 1:11.4 | but also a wonderful callback to a different time. |
| 1:15.6 | Yes, it is. |
| 1:16.4 | And I did stay up for it unusually. |
| 1:20.6 | And all the family came down and watched it. |
| 1:23.3 | And it was obviously, it's absolutely breathtaking. |
| 1:27.0 | But it does invite a conversation |
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