Here's Morgan.

Here we go.

We have two interviewers, and I'm going to interview you, although you never know.

You could flip it on me at any moment, so we never...

Anything could happen here.

Last time I was in Miami, I was interviewing a serial killer for a crime documentary.

I'm getting a very similar vibe.

But at any moment, you might try and lunge at me. I am noted as like the serial murderer of interviewers. So, no, I'm glad to see you. Obviously, we've done each other shows many, many times. There's plenty of things we agree on, disagree on. I want to kind of dive in on everything. But first, let's talk about the book for a moment because it's called Woke is dead. And I was thinking it's an interesting title at this moment because it seems to me

in New York right now, woke has just come back in the most nefarious, almost final form way,

the combination of kind of woke and Islamism and communism and all that stuff. And then

on the other side of it, Trump has eliminated a lot of woke. So tell me about sort of where the title came from and what do you make of? Well, it's more an aspiration, if I'm honest. I make the point in the book. I don't actually think it's dead yet. I think we're going to be playing whack-a-mole with wokeism for a while yet.

There are a lot of people who haven't got the memo.

Mr. Mandani is one of them.

But I do think the public tolerance of wokeism is massively collapsing. I mean, look at Cindy Sweeney, for example, as we're talking, she gave an interview to GQ. A GQ interviewer. We'll put her boobs up on B-roll. Right, right. And the GQ interviewer clearly

wanted her to apologize for the jeans ad. And Sidney Swinney was having none of it. What's happened to

Sydney Swinney since that attempt to cancel her over that ad? She's only got infinitely more famous

and more successful. That's an example of what I mean by woke being dead. Two, three years ago,

she might well have been cancelled. Now, people are standing up going, I've had enough of this,

and actually anybody else who stands up to it, I'm going to support them, whether it's true

buying their albums or going to their movies or whatever. I'm seeing a lot more of that.

In England, a survey came out today, actually, reported in the Times of London.

And it showed that the way the public in Britain view wokeism has markedly shifted in the last four years.

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