I was asked as a journalist to find out why kids were leaving IU.

And what I uncovered, what we were seeing was just the tip of the iceberg.

And I think one thing, a lot of people, as I watch the reaction on Twitter,

everybody focuses on Neil Reed and grabbing the student by the arm and all these little things.

And what they fail to kind of digest is that even the university came to the conclusion

that he was making people scared within the university.

Welcome to the Edge of Sports Podcast.

I'm Dave Zyron, and this week I'm feeling healthy.

This week we speak to Robert Abbott.

He is the producer, director, and narrator of the new ESPN 30 for 30 film, The Last Days of Night, which is about Indiana basketball

coach Bob Knight's flammable final days as head coach over at IU. This is for my money the best

30 for 30 that they've done, and I cannot wait to break it down with Robert Abbott, while also not

trying to do too many spoilers, because people should watch this film when it airs on December 11th.

I also have some choice words about Colin Kaepernick and the rejection of Colin Kaepernick by the Washington football team.

I've got Just Stand Up and Just Sit Down awards, some listener feedback, and more.

But first, Robert Abbott.

Robert Abbott, I don't want to reveal too much about the last days of night because I want

folks to see it on December 11th and ESPN Plus, but I'm hoping you could give us first and foremost some background,

because you really could have done any 30 for 30 at this point. You'd already done one previously.

How and why did you come to Bob Knight as a subject matter?

Well, basically, Dave, I had pitched Catholics versus Convicts, which I wanted to direct.

And John Dahl, who actually started with me at ESPN, kind of, excuse me, CNN, back in

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