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Hey everybody, I'm Ashley Graham and this is Pretty Big Deal where confidence is key.

Every episode I get to pick the brains of brilliant inspiring, honest, new and old friends

who are a pretty big deal.

Today we're talking to the fashion icon and Harlem legend Dabber Dan.

Dab has returned to the mainstream, reopened his Harlem Atelier and taken his

rightful seat at the table in the fashion industry. Dabber Dan is in the house,

what? Thank you so much for being here. Well I'm happy. Just being around you, let

me tell you something, you're truly amazing. I'm not used to this because I live

in a cocoon for 20 years. I'm a real product in my community. Only the last four years,

like five years since I came out of the underground, have I ever had a chance to engage the people

that I'm talking to now. My only relationship with people who are meeting now is through

books. Other than that then, when I'm in Harlem, I'm talking Harlem still and I'm always

there. Anything that's inside of me, that's outside of that, I had to get from books.

And so now to get real high, people like for the last, since I came out of the underground,

everyone, my son, the firefighters, everybody who's came and interviewed me, when we had done

our interview, done because I couldn't understand what it was about me that they found like so

interesting. In fact, I researched myself, so I'm looking up Dabber Dan, see what people

say. They got little alerts. Yeah, so I'm seeing what people are saying about me. And

I come across this book and the title of the book is remixing the classroom, this new

form of learning. And so there's Professor at Columbia University School of Music. And

he teaches the graduate course in music. And I come across the book and the first chapter

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