Welcome back to the podcast, Bride, Swindle, or Steel. I'm Alexander Rogi. Today we're speaking with Paul Karwana Galizia.

Paul is a journalist with Tortoise Media, and he joins us from Malta, where he is attending the criminal proceedings underway of the two people who confessed to killing by Carbom, his mother, Daphne Caruana Galizia, a name that will be known to many of you.

Thank you, Paul, for joining me at what must be a highly charged and difficult time.

Thank you so much for having me, and I'm so sorry I couldn't be there in person.

Your mother, Daphne, if we could start with a little bit about her story,

was a widely read Malta-based investigative journalist who worked largely, maybe exclusively,

on corruption and the corruption schemes in Malta that involve some very powerful

figures leading up to her assassination, she was an ongoing target of threats and harassment

and she just didn't let up. I've been to Malta since her death, and people are a little in awe of

your mum. She just kept annoying a lot of really bad and powerful people. Can you talk a little bit

about her work and her legacy? Her life coincides with a really interesting period in Molde's

history. So she was born in 1964. Dear Malta, decolonized, so it was a British

colony before that. She grew up in a country that was changing a lot, but in many ways was very

conservative, certainly socially. So she was at 25 in 1990, the first woman to be a colonist, like a regular newspaper columnist,

writing under their own name. So still at the time, people wouldn't write under a name

out of fear of reprisals. The kind of writing, as you'd expect, reflects what was happening

in the country.

So very early on, she was writing about the changes in Malta, its hope of joining the European Union, which she really wanted, you know, which she saw as an almost silver bullet to

solve Malta's governance failings.

And then, you know, the country did join.

It grew richer.

But the reforms she really wanted and hoped for, you know,

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