This is Leslie Kane and you're listening to That UFO Podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to That UFO Podcast.

My name is Andy and I am delighted to have a first-time guest,

but long pursued guest of mine joining me.

He is a distinguished lawyer, researcher, disclosure activist

and the co-founder of the new paradigm institute I've got Mr

Daniel Sheehan Danny finally welcome to the podcast thank you early glad to be here

it's good to get you on in a very busy and important time in the UFO topic.

Danny from 2017 in December, the New York Times bombshell article started a chain reaction.

That raised awareness in the mainstream of the US government's

official interest in UFOs. It's led to the US Navy updating reporting guidelines

on UAP. The UAP task force formed and then started reporting.

Then on to the formation of Amesog and Arrow.

We have then had hearings, heard around the world as Pilots Dave Frever and Ryan Graves sat alongside

Whistleblower David Grush talking about their experiences,

recovered craft and non-human biologics.

All this seems to have led to this very week where the Schummer Rounds Amendment is hanging in the balance

as politicians fight to preserve or weaken its contents and I want to ask you how

important for you is it the passing of this amendment and what are the ramifications we could see in the

coming days and weeks if it passes or if it passes in some other form? Well if it if it

passes in its present form, Andy, it's going to be extraordinarily important because not only are we going to have a board that is in place that is appointed by the president and have the president

being briefed regularly about what how their progress is going but it will have the

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