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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Danny Brown and Johnny Echols on Love's Forever Changes

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.54.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 June 2022

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Today we’re closing out Black Music Month by celebrating one of Rick Rubin’s favorite albums of all time—Forever Changes by the band Love. Formed in 1965, Love was a groundbreaking, interracial L.A. group. While their name isn’t usually mentioned alongside historic psychedelic bands like The Byrds or The Grateful Dead, Love’s influence is vast. Their charismatic, fashion-forward black frontman, Arthur Lee, inspired Jimi Hendrix’s look, and in the mid-60s Love was one of the hottest bands in Hollywood.

In 1967 Love recorded their third album, Forever Changes. It was the last album for the original core group with guitarist Johnny Echols and co-writer Brian McClean. The album ushered in an entirely new sound for the band, combining Baroque sounding strings with horns and folky instrumentation with poetic lyrics.

On today’s episode we’ll hear some of Rick Rubin’s conversation with Detroit rapper Danny Brown, who like Rick, places Love’s album Forever Changes at the very top of his greatest albums of all time list. Then, we’ll hear Rick in conversation with Love’s lead guitarist Johnny Echols about the intense turmoil surrounding the recording of Forever Changes. Echols—who grew up straddling both Black LA and the psychedelic strip—explains how Love was responsible for getting The Doors their record deal, only to be quickly overshadowed by The Doors mainstream success. Echols also recalls first meeting the Beatles when they were an opening act for Little Richard.

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, today we're closing out Black Music Month by celebrating one of Rick

0:15.7

Rubin's favorite albums of all time, forever changes by the band Love.

0:22.6

Love was a groundbreaking LA group formed in 1965, while their name isn't usually mentioned

0:28.4

alongside popular California psychedelic bands like The Birds or The Grateful Dead.

0:34.0

Love's influence is vast.

0:36.4

They were the first interracial rock band, predating even sign the family stone up in San

0:40.7

Francisco.

0:42.1

Their charismatic fashion forward, Black Frontman Arthur Lee, inspired Jimmy Hendrix's

0:47.0

look.

0:48.0

And in the mid 60s, Love was the hottest band in Hollywood.

0:52.0

They lived together in a castle and played sold out shows on the sunset strip where diehard

0:56.6

fans like Jim Morrison came to see them play.

1:00.1

In 1967, the band recorded their third album Forever Changes.

1:04.2

It was the last album for the original core of the group with guitarist Johnny Eckles

1:08.3

and co-writer Brian McLean.

1:10.7

The album ushered in an entirely new sound for the band, combining broke sounding instruments

1:15.4

and horns with folk instrumentation and poetic lyrics.

1:20.0

On today's episode, we'll hear some of Rick Rubin's conversation with Detroit rapper

1:23.6

Danny Brown.

1:25.2

Who, like Rick, places Love's album Forever Changes at the very top of his greatest albums

1:31.6

ever.

1:32.9

Then we'll hear Rick in conversation with Love's Lee guitarist Johnny Eckles about the intense

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