Welcome to the conversationsations, That Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. I haven't watched

the video yet that I'm about to watch. So we're both, I've done this a few times, we're both

hearing this for the first time, but I've had a few people

text me this morning and say, John, you got to see this. And at first I was like, I've seen a lot of

Danny Aiken stuff, but they said, I need to see this one. And this is from about a week ago I guess this is more

than that April 28th in Southeastern's chapel service and it's just a Q&A with the

President Danny Aiken I'm a graduate of

southeastern so I I've kind of picked I've tracked kind of what they're doing

here and there but I feel like you know I've I've shown kind of what they're teaching I've

Showed how there's a lot of social justice stuff going on there but long story short

There was a video that was from 2018 that the ERLC made, but it kind of surfaced more recently where

Danny Aiken saying things like ethnic minority see the world differently than him which is why he

needs to listen and then give up power and that white people need to do that they need to

give up their power to ethnic minorities. Of course he's still the

president of South Eastern Baptist theological seminary. He hasn't stepped down from that.

Anyway, I think that that's sort of maybe the context, that whole controversy because not the bee

posted that and James Lindsay posted that it kind of went mini viral based on

their posts and and I heard Danny Aiken on one other interview someone sent to me where he's kind of he's doubling down and saying

Basically, you know, I'm not apologizing for anything I said in that.

And then there's this.

This is the most recent.

So if you want to, is Southeastern Woke?

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