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And I'm Daisy Rosario.

And you're listening to I see why am I, or in case you missed it.

Slate's podcast about internet culture.

That felt good to banter back and forth again.

Welcome to the mic again, Daisy.

It's a pleasure to have you.

Oh, thanks, Kate.

Happy to be here to, I was never one to play tennis,

so I guess I'm here for pickleball with you today.

Perfect.

Listen, I really can't say I'm good at either.

So I will see how this goes.

But how is your Thanksgiving? We are back after a nice break.

Oh, man. I had a very lovely Thanksgiving in that I feel like I finally got a few good night's sleep for the first time in a few weeks, you know? I mean, I know it should be more exciting than that, but that truly was the highlight for me about you. Yes, it was lovely. I was in Western New York with my husband's family. And the entire time I was there, it snowed. It like like, dumped snow, which is perfect for me because,

I mean, Thanksgiving is great and all, but really what it most represents personally is just

the barrier between when I'm socially allowed to start celebrating Christmas. And Daisy, I know

you and I, big Christmas heads. It was a delight to learn that.

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