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The Tikvah Podcast

Daniel Samet on the U.S.-Israel Relationship and the American National Interest

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, News, Politics, Religion & Spirituality

4.8658 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

The relationship between the United States and Israel has long been the subject of intense scrutiny, very often distorted by polemic and conspiracy. One of the most influential articulations of these distortions came in 2007, when the political scientists John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt argued that American foreign policy had been hijacked by a powerful Israel lobby—an argument that, despite its weaknesses, has shaped how many Americans view relations between these two nations.

My guest today, the historian and policy scholar Daniel Samet, has written a new book that aims to set the record straight. Drawing on archival research and much evidence, Samet demonstrates that U.S. policy toward Israel during the cold war was not the product of special pleading and manipulation, but of America's own strategic interests. By examining presidencies from Harry Truman through George H.W. Bush, he shows how American leaders, whatever their personal sympathies, consistently acted to advance U.S. national priorities—and how Israel sometimes fit into that strategy, and sometimes did not.

In this episode of the Tikvah Podcast, Samet joins the host and editor of Mosaic Jonathan Silver to discuss how Israel was perceived in Washington during America's long struggle with the Soviet Union, what lessons that history holds for America's rivalry with China today, and why misconceptions about the "Israel lobby" persist in our political discourse.

Daniel Samet is a Jean Kirkpatrick Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, where he works on U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. His book, U.S. Defense Policy Toward Israel, was published earlier this year.

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0:00.0

The relationship between the United States and Israel has long been the subject of intense

0:11.3

scrutiny, very often distorted by polemic and conspiracy.

0:15.5

One of the most influential of these distortions came in 2007, when the political scientists

0:20.5

John Meersheimer and Stephen

0:22.0

Walt argued that American foreign policy had been hijacked by a powerful Israel lobby, an argument

0:28.1

that, despite its weaknesses, really has shaped how many Americans view relations between

0:32.8

these two nations. My guest today, the historian and policy scholar Daniel Samet, has written a new book that

0:39.3

aims to set the record straight. Drawing on archival research and much evidence, Samet demonstrates

0:45.0

that U.S. policy during the Cold War towards Israel was not the product of special pleading

0:50.8

and manipulation, but instead of America's own assessment of its own strategic

0:55.6

interests. By examining the presidencies from Truman through George H.W. Bush, Samad shows how

1:02.4

American leaders, whatever their personal sympathies, consistently acted to advance U.S. national

1:08.3

priorities. Sometimes Israel fit into that strategy, and sometimes it didn't.

1:12.7

Welcome to the Tickfoot podcast. I'm your host, Jonathan Silver. Daniel and I discuss how Israel was

1:18.4

perceived in Washington during America's long twilight struggle with the Soviet Union. What lessons that

1:24.5

history holds for America's rivalry with China today,

1:27.9

and why misconceptions about the Israel lobby persist in our political discourse.

1:33.1

Daniel Samet is a Gene Kirkpatrick Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute,

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where he works on U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.

1:39.9

His book, U.S. defense policy toward Israel, was published earlier this year.

1:44.6

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1:50.4

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