Texas Monthly.

Hey there, I'm John Spong with Texas Monthly Magazine, and this is One by Willie, a podcast in which I talk each week to one notable Willie Nelson fan about one Willie song that

they really love. This week, we talked to one of the greatest, most innovative producers in the history

of recorded music, Daniel Lanwa. He's the genius behind you two's Joshua Tree, Bob Dylan's

time out of mind, Peter Gabriel's So, and Willie's own landmark 1998 album, Teatro.

Daniel's going to focus on one of his favorite songs on the record. I've loved you all over the

world, but then his mind will start to float to Cuban dance clubs, to art that exists only in

shadows, and to the way that you too tries to summon Willie when they're writing songs, for real in shadows, and to the way that U-2 tries to summon Willie when they're writing

songs, for real. Oh, and a quick aside, Daniel likes to record in unorthodox locales. He and Brian

Eno famously made U-2's unforgettable fire in an old Irish castle. Well, he and Willie made Teatro

in an abandoned movie house in Oxnard, California.

If you want to look at what that was like, maybe after the show, get over to YouTube and check

out the videos that Vim Vendor's shot of Willie, Daniel, and Emmy Lou Harris creating the songs on Teatro.

They're stunning. Let's do it.

The days are.

We start where we always start.

What is so cool about Willys?

I've loved you all over the world.

I listened to the track a couple of days ago,

and I was surprised at how stark it was.

It has no bass, and the drums sound like they're the sound of rattling bones,

as if it's some kind of a marionette show.

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