Hi there, I'm Chris Duffy, host of How to Be a Better Human, another TED podcast.

Most of us want to be better, but we're not quite sure where to begin, and our show is here to help.

On our podcast, you'll hear from guests and TED speakers who might just make you a better human,

from standing up for what you believe in to challenging conventional wisdom, embracing rejection,

or finding gratitude every day, our show is your guide to becoming a little less terrible.

Not that you're terrible right now, I think you're great, but on something me become a little less

terrible and maybe you'll pick up something along the way. You can find How to Be a Better Human

wherever you're listening to this. Hey worklifers, it's Adam Grant.

Season four is right around the corner, but today I wanted to share a special conversation

in our Taken for Granite series. I'm talking to Daniel Conneman.

Danny won a Nobel Prize in Economics. He's been named one of the most influential economists

in the world, but he's not on board with that. Oh my god, no. I have no hard to be a real economist.

I'm not any kind of economist. Danny is one of the great psychologists of our time.

Actually of all time, you may have read his influential book Thinking Fast and Slay,

and he has a new book, Noise, Coming Out Later this Spring with Cass Sunstein and Olivia Sibony.

This is Taken for Granite, my podcast with the TED Audio Collective.

I'm an organizational psychologist. My job is to think again about how we work, lead, and live.

This conversation with Danny challenged one of my core beliefs about intuition.

It also gave me a new way of thinking about which ideas are worth pursuing.

Since Danny is an expert on decision making, I thought I'd start by asking about what we're

seeking in so many of our decisions. You've spent a lot of your career studying happiness

in related topics. Really for the first time in my career, I started to wonder why are we so obsessed

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