Hey, welcome into the program, Joel Klatt here. This is the Joel Klatt show. Super excited for today's episode. Remember, always

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Not only a great friend, but one of the best in the business in covering football, talking about football, analyzing football. He is Daniel Jeremiah, the lead draft analyst for NFL Network,

and all around one of my favorite people in this entire industry. So DJ, I appreciate you coming on men. How you doing?

I'm doing great. I just want to just clarify when I'm asked about you, I always say you're my favorite person in the industry. I always say you're the best.

I don't use this one of the best one of my favorite people. Like, what is that? How many people are in this group?

This club that you put me in right now. You're one of one. One of one DJs. You are like you are the go to not only for me, but for a lot of people when it comes to the draft.

And we just got done watching you and Rich, you know, the conversation for hours on end over the combine.

The combine, man, and this is the time of year where everyone starts getting heated up and we start talking about risers and fallers and everything like that. But the first thing I wanted to start with was just your overall feelings about the combine.

I know it's exciting for you, but do you do you value it in the same way that fans value it for on field workouts versus everything else that happens?

Well, it's a great question. I think there's kind of a movement right now and you see it and you hear whispers about it and you hear the term, the underwear Olympics, right? That's the popular phrase that people like to throw out there.

And the games are over. So, you know, anything that happens between the end of the season and the draft, you guys are just falling for it. You guys fall for this every year. You go watch these guys work out. It's not real football. What are you doing?

And then I push back on it because I do think there is value with the combine. Obviously, there's this stuff that everybody knows the medicals are huge. You know, the information there from the doctors, that's going to cause more movement on a board than anything else is getting your physical there at the combine.

Getting a chance to visit with the kids, you know, the teams having that opportunity to get that that, you know, that that up close one on one encounter with somebody that that could help in an evaluation.

But I think even on the field, Joel, the way I always like to say it is I like the combine for kind of help you separate clumps. In other words, I'm not going to compare the guy that was number one.

My number one corner on my board versus a guy who is my 40th corner on the board, like that's not there's not going to be that that movement there. But what I might say is, you know what, I've got three or four corners that are like in my third round range. I have the exact same grade on them.

There's three guys. And when you watch them move on the same field one after another, not only watch them run watching them work out, that can maybe be that little that little separator for that little clump of three guys.

I think that's where the combine is valuable.

You know what? That just gave me an idea and it's a great idea.

Rather than alphabetical, we should clump the guys in kind of projected range.

Watch the quarterbacks that are projected, you know, in the sub tier in one corner, so on and so forth that now now I'm now I'm into it.

Now I would love that. I would you have a committee to be able to vote on the players in terms of what group that they're in.

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