Daniel Coyle - Creating Teams that Flourish S8 | E13

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Radical Candor

Careers, Relationships, Society & Culture, Business

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🗓️ 6 May 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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While the podcast team is taking a Radical Sabbatical, Kim is interviewing authors of the books that have had a big impact on her in the past two years. In this episode, she’s speaking with Daniel Coyle about his new book, Flourish, The Art of Building Meaning, Joy and Fulfillment. What is a meaningful life, and how do we make one? How do certain communities foster closeness, fulfillment, happiness, and energy? Daniel Coyle has spent the last few years trying to crack this code. He talks about the transformation that happened during the famous story of the 33 miners trapped 2000 feet underground in a mine in Chile. It turns that the key to survival was a leader who was willing to let go of control. You can’t command and control your way to flourishing--or surviving in a crisis. Background on Daniel Coyle: Daniel is the New York Times bestselling author of The Culture Code, which was named Best Business Book of the Year by Bloomberg, BookPal, and Business Insider. Coyle has served as an advisor to many high-performing organizations, including the Navy SEALs, Microsoft, Google, and the Cleveland Guardians. His other books include The Talent Code, The Secret Race, The Little Book of Talent, and Hardball: A Season in the Projects, which was made into a movie starring Keanu Reeves. Coyle was raised in Anchorage, Alaska, and now lives in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, during the school year and in Homer, Alaska, during the summer with his wife, Jenny, and their four children. CHAPTERS (00:00) Introduction to Flourishing Leadership (03:03) The Distinction Between Living Systems and Machines (06:02) The Importance of Relationships in Leadership (09:02) The Miners in Chile: A Story of Brotherhood (12:06) Creating Space for Connection (15:06) The Role of Curiosity in Conversations (18:03) The Power of Community in Adversity (19:04) The Gottman Method and Relationship Dynamics (22:25) Personalized Criticism vs. Respectful Challenges (24:25) The Importance of Context in Relationships (27:19) Creating Self-Organizing Systems (30:39) Leadership as Design: Building Living Systems (32:36) Transformative Education: The Jigsaw Classroom (36:58) Reverent Leadership: The Kibera School for Girls (41:55) The Guardians: A New Approach to Coaching Connect with the Radical Candor team: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Radical Sabatical Podcast.
0:08.8	I'm Kim Scott.
0:09.9	And while the rest of the radical team, Radical Canter team is on sabbatical.
0:14.9	I am using my sabbatical to read great books and talk to the authors.
0:19.7	And so I'm thrilled to say that with us today is Daniel
0:23.0	Coyle, who is known probably to all of you as the author of The Culture Code and who has written
0:30.4	a wonderful book that really meant a lot to me flourishing. Not that the culture code didn't mean a lot.
0:36.8	It did. But I especially love your new
0:38.8	book. So welcome Daniel. Thanks, Kim. It's so fun to be with you. I got to say I'm a huge fan of
0:44.2	your work and what you do and how you do it. Huge fan of your work. And so I feel very lucky to be
0:49.8	spending some time with you today. Thank you. Me too. One of the things that is so interesting about your book, for me at least, is that it totally
0:58.6	redefines the role that leaders play in creating teams that flourish, or societies, actually,
1:06.5	that flourish. It seems like your book in many ways is an explanation of why neither command
1:16.2	and control or charismatic leadership work and why founder mode is just a disaster.
1:25.0	I don't know if you agree with that, but I'm going to, you know, strong opinion strongly
1:30.0	help, but always open to disagreement.
1:33.0	Oh, I like that.
1:34.1	And autocratic leadership is just a flourishing killer in my book, at least.
1:39.7	And it seems to me and yours.
1:41.8	Yeah.
1:42.4	No, I would agree with that.
1:47.1	It's good for simple stuff, right? if you want to go from a to b it's kind of good to have a machine i think the main distinction
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