Ladies and gentlemen, welcome another episode of the Wayne End podcast. I'm with my boy, man,

my long time brother, the ones been in the gym with me grinding away, making me feel miserable in the wrestling room all the time. But this guy, man, obviously one of my closest friends that are out of AKA, man, the two division champion, I can go on and on and on, two-time Olympian. I'm going to give this guy all the praise. But brother, you're killing it right now. I love having you. And thank you so much, Dale Cormiere, two division champion. Thanks for joining the show today, brother. Thank you, my brother. I appreciate it anytime. When Josh calls, I pick up the phone for sure. I try not to bug you too much because I know you're a busy man. You got the kids. You got life. You got you know, you're traveling around the world. Man, you're doing your thing. But brother, I love you. Thank you so much for me.

I always say, Josh, when it comes to those things, I always say, we choose this life. Don't feel sorry for us. Right. That's true. We choose. We choose this life. It can be much worse. So it's all worth it man. I love my job. Yeah. Look, look. So I know that when we were texting this week,

I'm like, look, I love my job. Yeah. Look, look.

So I know that when we were texting this week, I'm like, look, I'm doing Rogan on Tuesday. It'll probably drop sometime this week. But I was like, I wanted to make sure that when everyone kind of flooded the channel, I was like, I want to make sure the people that were important to me. I'm trying to get Kane on right now. I've got you on. I've got SWIC coming on.

I've got people that were,

they kind of helped me get through my career.

I want to make sure we're trying to get you guys on as much as possible. And my man, I've got some questions for you because there's some big time stuff coming up in the UFC. Yeah. There's some big time stuff. We got the White House card coming up. You know, and there's a question I have for you. Why are people overlooking

Justin Gachie? You know, I think it's hard to look at Justin and say he's going to do something

different than those other guys, at least to the general fan, because for so many years, we have have said MMA math does not work in fighting

because you can't say because one guy beat the other guy, this guy can't win.

So Charles O'Levara beat Justin.

They saw what Ilya did to Charles O'Olavera.

They saw what Ilya did to Max.

Those victories over Justin make them believe that Justin has no chance.

But if there's a human being on this planet that you do not doubt it's Justin Gachy,

especially under these circumstances, you know, the American fighters on the White

House card would seem to be up against it.

Most of them are in fights that are very difficult matchups for them.

But with the White House as a backdrop, with the pride that these fighters will walk to that octagon with,

I expect the American fighters to perform much better than the general public does because of all those factors.

You'll, it's the 250 year anniversary of the United States of America.

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