Why have so many time-saving devices actually not saved us any time at all?

How do you know if your devices actually work for you or you work for them?

And what guidance is there for an appropriate use of artificial intelligence?

We answer these questions and a whole lot more with our guest today, Dr. Trevor Sutton,

pastor, professor, and author specializing in with our guest today, Dr. Trevor Sutton, pastor, professor,

and author specializing in the intersection of theology and technology. I'm your host, Scott Ray,

and this is Think Biblically from Talbot School of Theology at Biola University. Trevor,

welcome, really glad to have you with us. I so appreciate your emphasis and what you bring

to this conversation. So really glad to have you.

Absolutely. I'm excited to have the conversation. Tell us a little bit about what generated your interest in this connection between theology and technology. Because you're trained, I take it, as sort of a classic, systematic theologian. But this is a bit novel application of theology that you don't see every day.

So what sparked your interest in pursuing this a little bit further?

Yeah, I stumbled on it. It was not trying to find it.

So I'm a parish pastor, did a Masters of Divinity.

We're serving a congregation in Lansing, Michigan, where I'm still

serving. We're in the shadows of Michigan State University. A lot of my congregation, you know,

has connections to the university. So pretty quickly, after starting to serve in that parish,

it became obvious that having an advanced degree from that school would have been helpful.

And so I found a program at Michigan State.

It was called Digital Rhetoric and Professional Writing.

And I was very intrigued by the professional writing side of it.

Prior to starting the parish, I'd done journalism and been a writer.

The digital rhetoric thing I sort of did like you did. I was like,

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