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WSJ Tech News Briefing

Dangerous Content Can Be Coaxed From DeepSeek

WSJ Tech News Briefing

The Wall Street Journal

Tech News, News

4.31.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Chinese AI app DeepSeek is more vulnerable to jailbreaks compared to other AIs, making it more likely to offer potentially dangerous information. WSJ reporter Sam Schechner joins host Julie Chang with more on what he found when The Wall Street Journal and AI safety experts tested the chatbot. Plus, OpenAI has released its newest reasoning model. We hear from its VP of engineering on what a reasoning model can do and how companies are using its artificial intelligence agents. Sign up for the WSJ's free Technology newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:32.7

Welcome to Tech News Briefing. It's Thursday, February 13th. I'm Julie Chang for the Wall Street Journal.

0:39.2

Open AI has released its newest reasoning model. We'll hear from its VP of engineering on what a

0:45.3

reasoning model can do and how companies are using its artificial intelligence agents.

0:50.2

And then, Chinese AI app DeepSeek is more vulnerable to jail breaks compared to other AIs.

0:56.4

So there's a higher likelihood that it'll offer potentially dangerous information.

1:00.8

The WSJ and AI safety experts tested the chatbot, and we'll hear from one of our reporters.

1:23.5

Up first, OpenAI recently unveiled O3 Mini, its newest reasoning model that the company says can think and reason through more complex tasks than prior so-called small language models.

1:26.6

Users can access O3 Mini on chat GPT.

1:30.7

But why do companies need such advanced models that can think and reason? Surinvasna Rhinaraynan is the VP of Engineering at OpenAI. He spoke about that and more

1:37.1

with WSJ reporter Bell Lin at this week's WSJ-CIO Network Summit. Here are some highlights from

1:43.2

their conversation.

1:48.3

And a quick note, News Corp, owner of the Wall Street Journal, has a content licensing partnership with OpenAI.

1:51.0

So Srinivost, what is OpenAI's definition of reasoning and why is it matter to a corporate

1:56.3

enterprise?

1:56.9

So reasoning fundamentally is the ability for AI systems to think longer and solve more complex problems.

2:05.6

So if you ask a human a very simple question, we almost immediately give you an answer.

2:11.6

If you ask you a hard math question, you can't give an answer immediately.

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