And for a while, I just chalked it up to be like tough love, you know?

And that's the reason why I stayed so long. Like, there's so many factors that go into it. But that was one of them. I'm like, oh my gosh, like it's just tough love. I don't understand. So like off camera, is she also saying, like, you can't do this? Is she like pissed at you for trying to like do your own career? Because she could be your manager.

Snarky comments all the time, you know.

I know some people are like, well, you're harping on it.

If it was so bad, why are you talking about it? I'm like. Because you never got a chance to. Because I never got a chance to. I'm finally ready to talk about it. I wasn't ready to talk about it before. but now I'm ready. Her name is Trish.

She's got the dish and all and got some filthy, rich, pretty and pink.

Hot topic queen and says what everybody thinks she's just strange.

Yay!

Welcome back to the Just Trish podcast.

I am so excited for today's guest. You may know her from Dance Moms,

or you may have seen her at the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show recently.

Now she is an author, again, actually, twice author, Nas Sue. Hi, Trisha. Hi, how are you? This is

your second book, right? Yeah, this is my second book. First memoir, you did a children's book

and now this is your first you memoir. Exactly. This is my first, like, chapter book, which is

really cool. Bottom of the pyramid. Yeah. Oh my gosh, you were were wonderful. As as you walked in, you have such like a brightness to you and it made me so happy. Like you just have such a good energy. Thank you so much. I love it. You have great energy. Thanks. I was excited. I was so excited because I obviously like watched you for so long. Like I was a dance mom's watcher back in the day

like when it was. Really? Yeah, I really was. Okay. Yeah, it's a whole thing. We'll get into it.

Okay. But it's like, you've been doing this for so long too. We were talking earlier. I was like, yeah, I said after a while, you just don't know how to like stay relevant. I forget, even though you're a decade younger than me. You've also been doing it for just as long. You've been

dancing since you said two. Yeah. So wild. Longer than, like you've been doing over 20 years.

Just being a performer. Isn't that crazy? I didn't even think about it that way, but yes, it has been over 20. Because you're 25, right? I'm 24, yeah. 24. Oh my gosh. So that is wild. Oh my gosh. Did you ever see yourself writing a book, like starting as a dancer? We were like, one day I might write a book too.

Honestly, yes. Because both of my parents, well, when I was younger, my dad wrote a book. And I thought that was the coolest thing ever. The coolest thing ever. I was like, I'm going to write a book one day. Didn't know what I was going to be about, but I was like, I'm going to write a book one day.

And then on the show, my mom wrote a book.

So then both my parents had books. And then I'm like, I'm next, obviously. Yeah, you're like, that makes sense for me to do this too. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, so you have the example. You're like, because to me, I feel like publishing a book seems almost impossible.

...