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As a teenager.

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Shitan. Hello, as a teenager, I could only dream of having a seduction technique. The idea that any

young woman might be persuaded to accept my advances seem pretty pretty remote when at that stage I'd only

just master the correct way to approach one of the species for a dance. Are you dancing?

Are you asking? I'm asking. Then let's dance. But later in life, even when I'd mastered a few basic chat-up lines, modest elaborations of do you come here often,

I stood in awe of the postgraduate student who boasted and regularly proved that he could seduce

anyone at a party by simply going over to a woman who looked slightly

detached and whispering, I'm so sorry to bother you, but I can't help but notice that you look

strangely sad. Works every time he told me. But nowadays if I was still in the

relationship marketplace I could call upon professional help in the seduction process.

I can learn how to become a successful pickup artist by joining

a men's organisation that specializes in teaching just such a skill. I'm going to let my first

guest today explain. She's Rachel O'Neill.

She's the author of a new research paper called

The Work of Seduction.

Intimacy and Subjectivity in the London Seduction Community.

And Rachel has just completed her PhD at King's College in London.

I mean I've never heard of this particularly before.

I mean it's a growing business.

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