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Welcome to the Untold Dory podcast, everybody.

I'm Martha McCallum.

And, you know, we're just a few days out from Christmas.

It's kind of a special time of year.

And I think there are a lot of emotions that surround Christmas, some great ones and some hard ones for people as well. And I'm very happy to be joined by my dear friend Dana Perino today to talk about

some books, to talk about things that you might want to settle in and read over these holidays,

or some you might want to put on your list for 2024. I think of all my friends,

Dana is probably the most avid reader. And I don't know how she finds enough time to fit in

everything she gets. So I just love to download from her and hear what she's thinking. So welcome,

Dana. Well, thank you so much. We did this before. Was it last, was it a year ago? I think it was. Wow. Wow. No, no, we did a summer one, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was a summer one. So I don't know if this might overlap a little bit from the summer ones if I had to do like my top five. But it's funny that you say that I'm in a race right now, race with myself. I'm going to Spain. Yeah. On the Friday night before Christmas.

Okay.

And I am reading a book called The Time in Between by Maria Duneas.

It's fabulous.

She's great at historical fiction.

This is the first book I've read of hers.

My friend Ingrid recommended the book, the series for me.

It's got the time in between.

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