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Dana Gioia on Learning, Poetry, and Studying with Miss Bishop

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🗓️ 15 February 2021

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Poet and author Dana Gioia talks about his book Studying with Miss Bishop with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. They talk about the craft of being a poet, the business world, mentorship, loss, why poetry no longer seems to matter, and how it might begin to matter again.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.

0:06.4

I'm your host, Russ Roberts of Stanford University's Hoover Institution.

0:11.0

Our website is econtalk.org where you can subscribe, comment on this podcast, and find links

0:16.3

and other information related to today's conversation.

0:19.0

You'll also find our archives where you can listen to every episode we've ever done going

0:23.3

back to 2006.

0:25.5

Our email address is mailadycontalk.org. We'd love to hear from you.

0:32.1

Today is January 22nd, 2021, and my guest is poet and author, Dana Joya.

0:38.1

His latest book is studying with Miss Bishop, memoirs from a young writer's life.

0:43.7

I want to thank Plantronics for providing today's guest with the Blackwire 5220 headset.

0:48.9

And I want to let listeners know that our poll of your favorite episodes of 2020 is closed

0:53.3

and results will be available soon. Dana, welcome to Econ Talk.

0:57.2

At the be here.

0:59.0

Your book is a very short, very beautifully crafted set of memoirs about a handful of people

1:06.0

who influenced your career as an aspiring writer and poet.

1:09.1

I want to back up a bit and talk about an essay you wrote about 30 years ago in the Atlantic

1:13.6

that got a great deal of attention.

1:15.9

The title of that essay was Can Poetry Matter.

1:21.1

One theme of that essay was that is the poetry matter is a lot less than it once did.

1:26.7

What do you think happened?

1:28.5

Well, let me recapitulate the argument in my book.

1:33.6

I point out a cultural paradox that there has never been a country in the history of the

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