I think this is probably the greatest, certainly macro trade of all time or macro investment.

It's not even a trade, it's a structural change in the way the world is working in the

way the world will work in the future.

How did you make this leap?

Because we all have the moment where we heard about Bitcoin and then we all have the moment

where we bought some and then we all have the moment where we realized it was important

and then we have a moment where we went all in.

Six months, ten hours a day, threw myself into it and I started to think, oh my god,

what an idiot I was for not doing this back in 2014.

It's never too late to do the right thing.

And basically, I think we both realize now that it's not too late today.

People listening to this just go out and buy $10 worth of Bitcoin or 10 pounds of Bitcoin.

This is really about doing.

It's easier to explain DeFi once you've done something in that world.

You gotta dip that toe, take that leap and you gotta spend the time.

You have to spend the time.

It's going to exist no matter what because there are many, many people around the world

who are getting tremendous benefits from being involved in this world.

Not everyone has a stable currency, not everyone has proper monitoring fiscal policy.

Emerging market countries for some of them, this is a godsend.

The future is here and it's just a matter of how fast we embrace it.

I think that everyone should have some exposure.

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