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Coming up, a deep dive into immigration with Dan Stein, the president of Fair, the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

For nearly three decades, she's reported the action from the sidelines.

She started very young.

She's covered the NBA, NFL, Olympics, and the college football and basketball national championships.

And now, during these insane times in our world,

Michelle Tofoya thinks we need a serious dose of sanity.

This is sideline sanity with your host,

one of the sanest people on planet Earth.

Michelle Tofoya.

Dave. people on planet earth, Michelle Tofoya. Dan Stein is our guest. He is the president of the Federation for American Immigration

Reform. Dan, we're at a situation in the United States where it seems like, and I guess it's been this way for a while,

you correct me if I'm wrong, it just seems like nobody cares. It feels like there are no

immigration rules or laws except for those that apply to, you know, professionals who maybe

have overstayed a visa or a student visa, those are the people

that you hear about being sent home, and yet the southern border appears to be as porous,

if not, you know, as more poorest maybe than it's ever been. How do you see the overall

immigration scenario in the United States right now? Thank you for having me.

Michelle, this is a dire national crisis. Never in the history of the United States have we seen

our borders entirely collapse. And it's a self-inflicted head wound, thanks to Joe Biden,

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