Species.

Unite.

Unite.

There will come a time in the future where historians look back on this era of history and sort of see it as this moment of historical atrocity, which is what I

think it is today. I do think that factory farming and the, you know, the suffering caused to billions

and billions of animals every single year is a moral atrocity of historic proportions. I think we see it

that way today. I'm very confident it will be seen that way by a kind of broad

consensus in the future. But that's not inevitable. We have to do the work that we have to get

to get there. And that's exactly what we're trying to do at the Humane League, is kind of take the

steps that we think are the steps to be taken today to ultimately bring about the end of factory

farming in the long run.

Hi, I'm Elizabeth Novogratz.

This is Species Unite.

Factory farming is one of the greatest moral atrocities of our time. Yet we treat it like background noise. Tens of billions of animals are raised in systems designed to keep suffering, efficient,

and invisible. The cages, the confinement, the speed, the cruelty, all hidden behind corporate branding

and grocery store shelves. And even though awareness is growing, the cruelty, all hidden behind corporate branding and grocery store shelves. And even though

awareness is growing, the numbers of animals in our food system keeps rising. This conversation

is with Dan Shannon, the CEO of the Humane League, one of the most effective organizations

in the world when it comes to forcing the food industry to change.

Dan is helping to lead the fight to eliminate one of the cruelest practices in agriculture,

battery cages, where chickens live in tiny cramp cages for the entirety of their lives. Welcome, Dan. Hi. Thanks for having me. It's great to have you. Yeah, I'm happy to be here.

So you have a long career in the animal world and some out of

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