Dan Rockwell, author of THE VAGRANT
Your World of Creativity
Mark Stinson
5.0 • 45 Ratings
🗓️ 31 July 2023
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the podcast "Unlocking Your World of Creativity," Mark interviews Dan Rockwell, author of the upcoming book "The Vagrant: The Inner Journey of Leadership."
The interview begins with Mark sharing his personal reaction to the book, noting how it unexpectedly struck a personal chord right from the third page. The conversation delves into the profound nature of leadership as a personal journey, drawing insights from conversations Dan had with influential leaders like Jim Parker, Francis Haine, and Harry Kramer. These conversations led Dan to realize that leadership is about becoming oneself, a transformative and often elusive task for high-performing individuals. Mark also highlights Warren Bennis' quote on the simplicity and difficulty of becoming oneself.
Dan explains the significance of the book's title, "The Vagrant," which refers to being blown off course, both in terms of a bird's migration and an individual's journey in leadership. He shares how high performers can sometimes lose sight of themselves and struggle to find their way back on track.
The interview touches upon Dan's diverse background, including degrees in theology and ministry, as well as construction and design, and how these areas overlap in the realm of leadership. Mark further explores the commonalities among Dan's varied clientele, ranging from Chick-fil-A to the National Institutes of Health and Royal Caribbean.
The conversation then shifts to the creative process behind the book and Dan's collaboration with co-author John David Mann, known for his work on "The Go-Giver." Drawing inspiration from classic parable books, the authors chose a storytelling approach to convey their leadership insights.
Dan expresses his gratitude for working with BenBella Books and their valuable contribution to the project.
The interview concludes with Dan sharing a leadership insight for individuals who may think they are getting promoted but could potentially face termination.
The book will be released in September 2023 and is currently available for pre-order.
Overall, the interview explores the personal and collaborative aspects of leadership and creativity, shedding light on the inner journey of leaders and the importance of self-discovery.
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| 0:00.0 | We've created a special offer just for listeners of the podcast. |
| 0:03.6 | You can get the book A World of Creativity for a special price of $5.98 for paperback. |
| 0:09.1 | And the Kindle version is only $0.99. |
| 0:12.0 | Go to markhyphenstinson.com to take advantage of this special offer. |
| 0:21.8 | Happen to your most original thinking. |
| 0:24.4 | Organize your ideas. |
| 0:26.6 | And create the opportunities to launch your creative work. |
| 0:30.9 | Unlocking your world of creativity. |
| 0:33.6 | With bestselling author and brand innovator, markhyphenstinson. |
| 0:39.3 | Welcome back friends to our podcast Unlocking Your World of Creativity. |
| 0:44.5 | And on this podcast is we've explored creative practitioners that processes and habits. |
| 0:50.0 | We've often heard from them about the personal work of creativity, |
| 0:54.7 | but also then comes the collaboration and the teamwork and even leadership |
| 0:59.8 | behind that creativity. |
| 1:01.5 | And we'll explore that today with our guest, Dan Rockwell. |
| 1:05.2 | Dan, welcome to the show. |
| 1:07.4 | Well Mark, thank you so much for having me today. |
| 1:10.0 | Dan is a self-proclaimed leadership freak. |
| 1:13.0 | And it's the name of his blog and his platform. |
| 1:15.8 | But he's also the author of a forthcoming book, The Vagrant, |
| 1:19.6 | the subtitle The Inner Journey of Leadership. |
| 1:23.1 | His co-author is John David Mann of Go Giver fame. |
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