All right, so coaches are talking right now out at the Phoenix League meetings.

Dan Quinn did some one-on-ones before doing sort of group interviews.

Ben will hopefully jump on with us next hour because Ben's tweeted a couple of things so far,

including that they did not try to trade Tyler Biotish, which was interesting,

and that the plan right now for Center is to have Nick Allegretti and Julian Good Jones.

He's on the roster as a backup compete for the job.

Also, and this is a guy that I've talked about since last summer,

and this is an example of there's some people on this roster that we don't know a lot about.

Maybe they think these guys get the opportunity in the new scheme.

That number 89, remember from last off training camp and preseason,

Cager, the tight end, who really just popped on tape or during those games.

Those games mean nothing, but he just looked apart as a pass-catching tight end.

Quinn said he's one player that could take a big leap this season.

He's been a practice squad player.

These are the kind of guys you just never know.

And yeah, we'll see.

So hopefully Ben will join us next hour.

But right now, the sound that we have comes from a sit-down interview with ESPN's Kevin Clark from earlier this morning.

How about this question?

Because this was a good one on just the most underrated player he's ever coached.

All right, let's do some rapid fire stuff. Most underrated player you've ever coached in your career.

Man, that's so good because there's like many that would flash through right off the spot.

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