Aloha and mamaste everyone and welcome to in politics with John Heilman

my podcast for Odyssey and Puck coming at you every Wednesday and Friday with

fresh topical candid conversations with

the people who roam the quarters of power and influence in America from Washington

to Wall Street, Hollywood, Silicon Valley and beyond shaping and shifting the

warp and weft of our politics and culture.

On deck today we have someone who has transitioned swiftly, smoothly, swavly, and most of all smartly

over the past decade from the upper echelon of Beltway mojo to the Vanguard of New Media, the one and only Howard

Daniel Fifer Esquire.

If you're into politics and you're into podcast, you undoubtedly know Dan Fifer

as one of the fab 4 co-hosts of

Pod Save America and yes I am invoking the Fab 4 very much intentionally because

love it or hate it. Pot save America's place in the history of political

podcasting is roughly akin to that of the Beatles in the history of political podcasting is roughly akin to that of the

Beatles in the history of rock and roll. A quartet of loveable mop tops who came

along at just the right moment and through a combination of talent, charm, and

Moxie changed everything.

And in case you're wondering, and I bet you are,

in this analogy, John Favreau was Paul,

Tommy Veter is John.

John Love it is Ringo, duh, and Dan is George, the low-key cerebral, sneakily but supremely

talented backbone of the group who quietly but firmly holds the whole thing together.

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