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All right, let's talk some NFL playoffs, the AFC and NFC Championship games coming up this weekend.

ESPN's Dan Rolovsky in the car with us now.

What is up, Dan?

How are you, my friend?

Hey, guys, I'm doing good.

How are you?

Doing well.

You know, I was just making the point.

This kind of occurred to me today.

The transfer portal gets a lot of bad rap, and it's earned some of it.

I get that. But you know, we just saw a national

championship game between two quarterbacks that will never have a chance to win a national

championship if not for the transfer portal. And I would make the case, the NFC championship

features two quarterbacks that probably are not in the NFL without the transfer portal. It's

hard to know what happens to Jaden Daniels, but we were watching what was happening to Jalen Hurts.

I mean, without the portal, Dan, I don't know that either these guys are in that place.

I mean, the portal has been great for quarterbacks. I mean, go back to Joe Burrow as well.

So, yeah, the quarterback, the portal has been super good for quarterbacks. I think there's a lot of benefits that come from it. You know, there is the don't run from competition and challenge yourself reality. I think for

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