Dan McClellan - Does the Bible Say Jesus is God? (N344)
Nomad Podcast
Tim Nash
4.7 • 658 Ratings
🗓️ 9 May 2025
⏱️ 107 minutes
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Summary
In this episode we speak with Bible scholar Dan McClellan about one of Christianity’s most foundational claims: the divinity of Jesus.
Drawing from his deep engagement with biblical scholarship, Dan invites us to consider whether the Bible actually presents Jesus as God in the way later doctrine insists. He explores how early Christian texts reflect diverse and competing understandings of Jesus’s nature, and how ideas about divinity were shaped as much by evolving theology and politics as by the biblical text itself.
Following the interview, Nomad hosts Tim Nash and Anna Robinson reflect on their own relationship with Jesus’s divinity, and what it means to engage these questions with both intellectual honesty and spiritual openness.
Interview starts at 15m 22s
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| 0:00.0 | The |
| 0:07.0 | The Welcome back to Nomad podcast. I'm Tim Nash and joining me for this latest installment of Tim's ongoing struggle with the Trinity. It's Anna Robinson. |
| 0:43.9 | Hello. |
| 0:44.8 | We've inadvertently sort of created a little Jesus mini series, haven't we? Because it started with the Jennifer Bird episode that kind of sent me into a bit of a spin where she was pointing out some of the more |
| 0:54.5 | problematic things that Jesus said. Then I had a chat with Helen Bond about how there are |
| 0:59.7 | some things in the gospel that Jesus probably never actually said and did. And now we're welcoming |
| 1:04.2 | Dan McClellan who will be suggesting that the gospels don't actually say what we think they say |
| 1:09.8 | about Jesus. I don't think we've |
| 1:11.2 | done a little sort of mini-series like that on Nomad before. I've enjoyed it. I don't know if you have, |
| 1:14.7 | Anna. I have. I like the way you've just told me that now. Like this is what into the, into the |
| 1:19.1 | mini-series. What are we on? Episode four? Episode three of the miniseries. Episode three. Oh, that's good today. And you just discovered that you're part of a miniseries. |
| 1:27.6 | Yeah. |
| 1:28.0 | Thanks for keeping me in the loop there. |
| 1:29.6 | Anna, how are you? |
| 1:30.4 | What you've been up to? |
| 1:31.3 | I'm all right, thanks, yeah. |
| 1:32.7 | What I've been up to? |
| 1:34.3 | Well, this morning I was listening to this interview whilst having a, I'll call it a war, my garden and three-cornered leak. Is that something that you find sort of therapeutic or |
| 1:45.2 | bit sort of tedious? I do find it therapeutic, but I find it quite hard to make time for it, |
| 1:51.0 | but I've recently got really into listening to audiobooks. And so then it becomes, oh, I know, |
| 1:56.5 | it's an excuse to listen to my audiobooks. I'm like, the garden has become completely weed-free |
| 2:01.7 | because I just want to listen to my audio books. That's the way to do it, isn't it? Yeah, it's a bit of a |
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